Many of us were taught an unspoken deal: Live faithfully, do the right things, and life will work out. In this episode, Amber and Tom gently — but firmly — challenge that transactional model of faith and money with Amy Butler, a pastor, author and founder of Invested Faith.<\/p>\n
Amy shares how her own ministry journey exposed the limits of “cosmic vending machine” theology and why she believes faith communities are called to something deeper: interdependence. Drawing from her books “<\/span>Beautiful and Terrible Things” <\/span>and “<\/span>Holy Disruption,” she explores how churches can move beyond scarcity thinking and creatively repurpose their assets to fund social enterprises that challenge unjust systems. <\/p>\n
Along the way, the conversation gets refreshingly practical: why pastors need balance sheets, not just Bible studies; why financial literacy is a form of pastoral care; and why closing or transforming institutions can be holy work. It’s a hopeful, grounded look at how faith communities can steward money, power and privilege with courage, imagination and a little disruption.<\/p>\n